Finally—a snappy answer when someone calls you “young lady”

It’s great to see Peg Cruikshank blogging for the Silver Century Foundation alongside Margaret Gullette and me. Cruikshank is the author of Learning to Be Old, among other important books, and her first post tackles what she calls the “Young Lady Dance.” What’s her response to being addressed as “young lady?”

“Why are you calling attention to my age?”

As Cruikshank points out, she has yet to be thanked for this excellent corrective. People tend to deny that they’ve done any such thing, or respond indignantly because, hey, they’re not biased—and, hey, it’s a compliment. I’ve had people insist that women love being called “young lady.” But it’s condescending even to women who actually are younger; it’s embarrassing for the no-longer-young who feel insecure about it; and for those of us who’ve stopped being embarrassed about being older, it’s infuriating. (Here’s my take on it.) 

Unless we call out ageist language, people keep using it. Tone matters.  Next time some clown calls me a young lady, I’m going to try a slightly gentler take on Cruikshank’s rejoinder: “Hmm . . . how come you’re calling attention to my age?”

 

17 thoughts on “Finally—a snappy answer when someone calls you “young lady”

  1. I am 57 and have slugged out working in a male dominated career. I am accomplished, educated and trained on current management techniques in a challenging career field. When store clerks and servers call me young lady I respond “Did you just cal me an accomplished 57 year old United Steates Marine Young Lady”? Works Every Time!!

  2. I’m in my mid twenties and hate being called young lady. It seems inappropriate, especially in a professional work setting (my situation)

  3. I HATE it! So demeaning and faux-complimentary–like I’m supposed to giggle and bat my eyelashes…..I always tell the guy (it’s ALWAYS a guy) that unless he’s 90 he’s not allowed to call me a young lady. I’m 71 and I know what I am and “young lady” isn’t it.

    1. My FEMALE dentist called “YL”…
      The second time I corrected her
      She said ” all the ladies love it when I call them yl” No they don’t At the time I was 75 That was the end of her…..new dentist

  4. A clerk in a local store calls elderly women, like myself, “young lady.” Finally, I told her that I cringed every time I was called that, and I told her why. I said that I am obviously not a young lady, and that calling me one says to me that what I am is not alright. I felt badly because I know I hurt her feelings. She thought she was being kind.

  5. I was shopping at a local department store when a young female clerk walked up and asked me, “Can I help you sweetheart?”. I’m a 60 year old, college educated, female and up to that point was feeling pretty good about myself. I ignored it only for her to call me “babydoll” next. That was it. When I went to pay for my items, I informed her it was rude to call someone you don’t know by those names and asked her to please stop it. What really shocked me though was there were three other women, close to my age, behind me and they also spoke up about how much they disliked those terms. I am a Southerner and a lot of people say it’s just part of our culture. It isn’t. True Southern mamas like mine taught their children to be respectful to older people and to say “sir” or “ma’am” not sweetie, darling, babydoll, cutie, or honey. I’ve read other articles where people say they don’t mind these terms, most of them are men, and if they don’t that’s fine. However, I do mind. It’s really okay to simply say, “May I help you?”. Short and to the point without making me feel like I’m about 100 years old.

    1. That all depends on your perception. Being over 65, I look at the term of “young lady”, as a term of endearment, not disrespect. When I’m called, “ma’am”, I feel that it ages me! & I’ve told that to those who say, “Ma’am”…”Miss” or “Ms” would be more appropriate. It actually makes me feel good when I hear, ‘young lady’ as I’ve woke up, showered, got dressed & made it, & prefer to take the ‘compliment’ rather than scowling about it like a cynical hoot. I’ll take “young lady” over “ma’am”. It’s nice when you have ears to hear instead of dissecting on the negative, or “age appropriate” crowd. I prefer to be called by my name rather than “granny”; just because an offspring chose to multiply doesn’t give the grandchild the right to use “granny” as I find THAT disrespectful in the tone it gets used. [That’s stereo typing, & name calling!] Take the compliment side of it, plain & simple, the “kiss” method of “Keep It Simple——-” instead of becoming ‘persnickety’. Embrace the fact that when you’re in your 90’s & hunched over from the weight of the world being on your shoulders, the career behind you & you hear “young lady” you still have all your teeth & can laugh about it. I prefer to ‘think young’ as well, don’t walk around with a bag full of pills. Be grateful when you hear “young lady” & take it as a compliment, as it may be the only time you ever hear it. Know ‘who you are’! Peace out!

      1. To each her own! But to continue to hear “young lady” as a compliment as the decades go by is to deny the fact that we are no longer young, and internalized ageism takes root in that denial. It also validates the fundamentally ageist notion that young = better.

  6. I don’t like hurting others, but I’m not about to be called a young lady at 64. So I make a joke out of it, to let the other person know how ridiculous it sounds to me by saying: “Thx, hon, but in my case the young lady ship sailed about 50 years ago…”

  7. You know it’s a shame feminism has become so arrogant & those who preach it so ignorant – and I say this as a fourth generation feminist whose great-grandmother was in the 1st wave & built herself up from uneducated & poor to educated multiple propery landowner on her own hook – that a compliment isn’t a compliment. What do you think a ‘lady’ is the local street walker? If the speaker is older than you they’re not gonna call you hey nag or hey you old bittie regardless of how justified it maybe.

    I’m a well educated woman with a lot of life experience – the sort of life experiences that have people commenting I should write a book when they hear it – and when an older man (or woman) refers to me as ‘young lady’ I take it as it’s meant to be a compliment. But then I’m not a knickers in a bunch modern “feminist”, who are really just embarassments to original feminism.

  8. I’m 52, and I cringe every time I get called young lady, and what’s odd is that it’s coming from middle-aged men. It’s patronizing. They might as well just pat me on the head while they’re saying it. My response is now, “oh, hello there young man,” which usually does the trick.

  9. I so appreciate these responses. I was in a dental office this morning and the dental assistant, who looks to be no older than 25, called me “young lady” (I’m 63 with a full head of white hair that I love.) I responded quickly that I did not appreciate it since I was probably old enough to be her grandmother. And this was in a so-called professional office.

  10. I am 54, and 10-20 times/day since I turned 50, in hospitals, at work, in restaurants, at bookstores… everywhere… I get not only young ladied but also “Dear, My Dear, Dearie, Sweetie, Sweetheart, Doll, Cookie, Cupcake, Huns, Honey, Love, Lovey, My Love, Darling and weirdly enough…
    Toots…”…

    Plus whole big sentences like “Oh, MY DEAR HUNS, we have eaten our food, we did WELL with our FOOD, didn’t we Sweetie” and “OH, my LOVE, what else can I call you but MY DEAR, SWEET OLD LOVE” and “OH NO DEAR, NO, YOU CANNOT WORK, NO DEAR LOVE, DEAR LADY TWO JOBS, NOOOOO, whyyyyyy, my LOVE?!!”… ” You’re retired, of course!!!” also “NO, we don’t have to check your HEART HUNS, YOU’RE JUST OLD” (the caps represent loud, slow Babytalk)…

    Also from a man my age “These last years of our career blah blah blah … (I’m no where near retirement – he’s got a great pension apparently LOL)” and…. a waiter at a fancy restaurant who served male customers with respect said “WHAT WILL YOU DO NOW IN THE LAST DAYS OF YOUR LIFE….”

    My personal favourite is ‘WE STILL HAVE OUR TEETH NOW DEAR, THAT SOOO GOOODDDDD HUNS, we have TEEETH … so LUCKY to have TEEEEETH…..”….

    I’m 5 foot 5, 135 lbs, muscular, a doctoral level professional, my hair’s not grey… but I must admit my face is quite a roadmap LOL I listened to many many variation on the above themes, and I don’t want to totally self-isolate or give up!! But it was starting to effect my self-esteem and quality of life until I began to politely talk back to the ageists!

    So I always say “please don’t call me … (whatever) and please stop talking to me in that way; please serve me the same as all the other customers. I speak in a polite gentle tone. Since, this has happened to me thousands perhaps even tens of thousands of times since I turned 50, most people have been polite and stopped the Elderspeak and then served me just like any other person. Of the thousands who changed their channel, only 3 young men and 1 young woman leaned over me, threatened me and threw me out of their establishments so I went to management in those cases. In only own case (the refusal of cardiac care to a “Dear”) was it truly a matter of life and death so I went to patient relations and had my ongoing care elsewhere.

    I think if we all start saying a strong NO to this type of treatment (and to age discrimination in hiring and health care); it will change!! Perhaps not in my lifetime especially if the abuse keeps up, but it will change!!

    PS I’m no where near the American South (have dealt with ageist crap in the Northern US, and in Canada in rural and urban areas in multiple provinces, across thousand of miles. I’m good with M’Am… M’am is respectful, appropriate… anywhere!! I’ll also answer to Miss, Sir, Hey You, and BOB (Bob = Bad… Old… Bird) 😉

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